This going to be a two part podcast because at some point I must have pissed off the audio gods. I have been trying to interview my collegue Michael Maco since mid April. Needless to say life got in the way, but we were finally able to record. Unfortunately we had to record in my car due to some time constraints and around the 27 minute mark is when the audio gods decided that they had enough. For what it’s worth I decided to post this anyways even though it’s not perfect. Please enjoy

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